Artist Interview by: John Douglas
Venue: Russia
May 2008 - "A wonderful new talent with deep feeling," said legendary Sheila Jordan,
when she heard Roman’s music for the first time, and the famous Tom Waits’
saxophonist Ralph Carney exclaimed, "At last, an original voice!"
Roman Matin is a Russian guitarist and composer whose name is just beginning
to become famous for the American and European audience. The creator of a truly
unique style of playing the guitar, the holder of the original beauty of sound,
marked by famous musicians and thousands of listeners, Roman released a new
album "Music For Electric Guitar" in May, 2008 on the Russian label RoDC.
Matin’s style of playing is a synthesis of jazz improvisation and academic
music; his polytonal and polyrhythmic technique, in combination with the lyrical
and nostalgic mood music, has won the hearts of listeners, and the new album
promises to be a famous one among the American music admirers.
Matin began his composing work as the author of music for films, and proved
to be a talented and distinctive jazz musician with the passage of time. The
Music of the Russian guitarist was highly appreciated by such classics as Airto
Moreira, Charlie Haden, Pauline Oliveros, Lenny White, Alphonse Mouzon, James
Spaulding, Stu Goldberg, Ned Rothenberg, Tommy Emmanuel, and multitude of young
European and American musicians. Let's try to find out what Roman tells us about
his musical thinking, plans and musical
preferences.
JazzReview: American audiences are not
sufficiently familiar with Russian music and musicians. Therefore, I would like
to ask: how strong are national roots in your creative work, or do you believe
yourself to be cosmopolitan in the highest degree?
Roman
Matin: Rather, I consider myself to be cosmopolitan. I believe that
music is international thing. I was brought up learning the art of various
countries and peoples. Of course, Russian culture, including its popular segment
also influenced my vision.
JazzReview: So, I would like
to move again to your vision right away. I remember the words of Paul Metzke
about your music: "Excellent classical/compositional approach to playing jazz
guitar." One can see deeply, thought-over parts simultaneously with the
liveliness improvisation in your playing. Is your art more composition or
improvisation?
Roman Matin: My main task is to reach
the integrated impact, which is a synthesis of composition and improvisation. I
want to avoid some academic dryness on the one hand, as well as stamps and
clichés, which are the part of improvisation on the other. It is rather
difficult for me to judge, but I think I am a jazzman in the modern sense of the
word.
JazzReview: It is known that you give concerts
rarely. Do you prefer recording in the studio?
Roman
Matin: I think that it is impossible to play the same way twice. I
strive for an ideal sound and the best conditions for me to achieve it are in
studio. I am a perfectionist - in this way, I agree with Glenn Gould. Meanwhile,
the very atmosphere of the show is so alien to me. Perhaps quietness and
loneliness is the main atmosphere to create music for me.
JazzReview: Many people pay attention to your
unique sound. Frankly speaking, it is very curious for me to know what
technology is created, so emotional voice, or it might be a secret?
Roman Matin: (Laughing) No, it’s not a secret. In my
records, I use Fender Custom Shop 1953 Telecaster. It is my main and favorite
guitar. I recorded my last album on it. Sometimes I use a Gibson Les Paul
Standard, sometimes Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster. Among the amplifiers, I
prefer Marshall of the JCM 2000 series.
JazzReview:
Your pieces are short and quickly followed; one part can last for only a few
dozen bars. Maybe you have been influenced by the creativity of the minimalists?
Roman Matin: Yes, of course. Minimalism is close to me
in its spirit. I bow before Werben’s brevity. Most, I like Steve Reich among the
minimalists. Taking it to account, I would like to create a sense of the endless
flow. I am encouraged by Wagner with his endless musical interlaced. I call my
plays "toy ones" ... I probably composed them for the princesses of the
fairy tales ... (smiles)
JazzReview: Roman, do you have
any artistic postulates or the principles about which you can tell some words?
Roman Matin: One of the basic principles is, for me, I
would call it the opportunity to create a sense of live music speech. Yes, for
me, it is live. It tells about something in every musical phrase.
It's not that it just creates my mood, but it tells me something, tells me
different stories of sadness, joy...every nuance talks very much about...from
this flows my jealous attitude to clean musical language. One note, for me,
it is already very much. I see a very important task in saying anything
concisely. I am afraid to say what was said once again.
JazzReview: Possibly in connection with this, Anthony
Coleman, the classic of modern improvisation music, called your creativity "a
kind of Satie-esque." Sati probably had influence on you?
Roman
Matin: Of course, the great classic left a mark on my vision. I always
bow before Sati’s laconism and his stunning expressiveness and elegance.
JazzReview: Roman, and what other artists have had the
greatest influence on you? Your own style is so original that I simply do not
know whom to suggest.
Roman Matin: A great number of
artists left a mark on my perception. I love Bartok, Stravinsky, Shostakovich,
Cage, Webern, but, of course, not only academism serves as an inspiration
for me. The creative work of Bill Evans, Lester Young, Duke Ellington, Weather
Report, Tom Waits and Sheila Jordan touch me and I admire them. For me, music
can be everywhere, being great it says by human speech, this speech is sent to
the heart; I just feel it or do not feel it. The musical genre or the school is
irrelevant for me.
JazzReview: You mentioned genre. In
its connection, I would like to note that in my opinion, your creativity is
difficult to be attributed to any genre. Maybe you can describe its style
position.
Roman Matin: Not at all. Only its own style
exists for my music. Actually, I think it so often happens that genre in many
cases creates clichés and stamps, making a recognizable sound. But, I am only
encouraged by the location of the notes in time. It is difficult for me to say
what genre is produced. I do not think about it. I only want to tell a story and
to do it beautifully. When I play, I am fully absorbed by the process.
JazzReview: I just want to talk about your inspiration.
Please tell me, what things besides music inspire you to write? Perhaps this is
literature or painting, or maybe other kind of art?
Roman
Matin: To tell the truth, the art of music absorbs me almost entirely.
Perhaps only the landscapes and nature inspire me, and sometimes it is movies.
In the movies, I found the mood is the most important and interesting thing. For
example, the post-industrial atmosphere of the films of David Lynch inspires me
greatly, and, of course, their inexhaustible humanism. I remember when I first
saw "Elephant Man." I was astonished. And therefore, I understand films
synthetically. Humanistic idea, black and white ribbon, industrial noise - all
this creates a mood for me. In my own music, I try to create a synthesis like
that.
JazzReview: Maybe the hiss and clicks of vinyl
records are one of such "synthetic" ideas. Please, tell more about your
views on it.
Roman Matin: Yes, to some extent I feel
melancholy for the era. For me the post-industrial era is in general the
melancholy that pierces my soul. This is the melancholy for the time when the
criterion of "beauty" meant so much ... Maybe this gives me the sense of spirits
or something. As I always wanted to create the effect of convincing speech by my
playing the guitar, sometimes I vary the rate for several times in one play,
increasing or slowing the pace of narration. I would like to achieve simplicity
and naturalness in the synthesis of folk music and electric sound of industrial
era. For me, synthesis is a very important task. I admire the sound of Bartok’s
folk plays performed by the author recorded in 1920s-1930s. There is an
immediate unique creation of the cultures and times. I do care a lot about our
modern, so to say, "industrial" look at something primeval.
JazzReview: I must admit, that I find your "synthetic"
view very interesting! After that, I don’t even want to touch upon some
"landing" aspects, but still, I would like to ask about choosing solo guitar as
your amplua. Maybe there is recording with a band in your plans, although I
remember Benny Russell’s talking about "the whole orchestra under your fingers."
Roman Matin: We say in Russia, "If one wants to make
God laugh at you, tell him about one’s plans." (smiles) I try to find my voice
in solo performance nowadays. I want indeed to use all the ability of my
instrument to create polyphonic sound, to hold the bass line at the same time.
The guitar, for me, is a kind of voice. It is a piano. It is an orchestra!
(smiling)
For more information: romanmatin.com
Photo by: © Yadviga Adamchik
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